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part one of this interview with author/ philosopher robert
anton wilson was excerpted from an interview done by
elizabeth gips and broadcast on her radio program,
"changes, " which is on kisc 88.1 fm in santa crui on Sunday
nights (7:30-10:00 pm) andkkup 91.5 fm in sen Jose tuesday
afternoons (2:00-6:00 pm).

changing reality tunnels

robert anton wilson: interview by elizabeth gips

my cosmology is the multiple universe model first suggested
by irwin schroedinger, the nobel physicist, back in the '40s, and
more recently developed by John archibald wheeler at
princeton andbryce dewitt and jack sarfattiand various
other physicists, according to this cosmology, everything
that can happen does happen.

iput my trust in our lady . . . our lady oris, the goddess of
chaos, discord, confusion, and bureaucracy, it takes only a
cursory glance at affairs on this planet to see that she is the
presiding divinity over everything going on here, especially in
government offices.

sirius is to occultists what ufos are to the population at
large, contact has been established, of course, everybody
knows that, contact has been established with the human
collective unconscious, most people have this idea that
contact is something that's going to happen in the future, a
flying saucer or a flying pie plate or something will land on
the white house lawn and somebody will get out. and the
president, because he knows the mason word, will be able to
greet them correctly, the president is always a 33° mason,
you know, they've passed on this word since the first contact
4,500 years ago and as soon as they come out, he'll say the
secret masonic formula, "gort klaatu marinda, " and they'll
know they've contacted the right guy and it'll all be fine,
that's a lot of nonsense, the contact was never intended to
be of that form and they're not interested in primate politics
at all. the alpha male in the baboon herd is precisely as
important and unimportant to them as the president of the
united states or the supreme servant of the people in red
china, primate politics is all pretty much the same,
chimpanzees, orangutangs, baboons, people . . . higher
intelligence isn't interested in that at all. the contact has
been established with the collective unconscious of
humanity and everybody knows it. you've just got to look at
comic books, the covers of rock albums, everywhere you
look, it's all over our culture, we are not alone, as the ads for
close encounters say. everybody knows it. it's the most open
secret of the twentieth century.

i was contacted by higher intelligences from sirius with a lot
of urgent messages about things i had to get done in the next
25 years which were very important for the evolution of
the human species, or that's the way it seemed to me at the
time, later on, i decided it was probably just "the little
people, " as the Irish called them, playing a joke on me. then
later on /'decided it was probably the right hemisphere of my
own brain giving me vistas of the future, then later on, i
decided it was actually my holy guardian angel, as the
c aba lists say. then later, i decided that i was just having a
schizophrenic breakdown at the time, i haven't decided yet
which one i believe, except that i know a lot
of intelligent people who have i
the experiences end they don't
seem crazy to me. i can't
judge ifi'm crazy, '
'cause who can judge
himself? the one
physicist i know who
believes it's all time-travel, and not extraterrestrial, has had
contact with time travelers, higher intelligence always fits
into your belief system, so that contact will be with
something you will believe is real, you can't be contacted by
something you don't believe is real.

i think within the next ten years virtually everybody is
going to have to read the AooA'/neuropoiitics by timothy leary
with robert anton wilson andgeorge ko op man) just in self-

protection to keep from flipping out future shock.

everything is accelerating faster than ever before, and most
people's nervous systems are imprinted, in the ethological
sense, the way a baboon is imprinted to play a certain role in
the baboon herd, most people are imprinted with early
reality models gained from their parents and their schools
and so on, and cannot adjust these models to new incoming
data, they adjust the incoming data to fit the models, when
they can't fit, they feel nervous, and they don't know why
they feel nervous, this is the main cause of neurosis, if the
incoming data contradicts the imprinted model too much,
you have what is called cognitive dissonance in psychiatry,
which produces behavior for which there are various clinical
terms, but which we refer to as being bonkers or wigged
out. this is because if you keep on getting signals that don't
fit your reality map, you know something is going on and you
don't know what it is — so you start getting very suspicious
and uncomfortable, that's why paranoia has increased so
much in the last 15 years, changes are coming faster and
faster all the time, people talk about, "should we go into
space?" it's too late to ask. we've already started, we're on
our way. more people have been in space now than had
flown the atlantic 50 years ago, and that includes all the
people who went by zeppelin before lindberg went by plane.

~ —

figure the progress of aviation from 1928 to 1978 — that's
50 years — and it's gone up to the point where the number of
people who are going through kennedy international in new
york every year is equivalent to the total population of the
united states, two hundred million people go through every
year, project aerospace technology forward 50 years and
you've got 200 million people going into space every year,
gerry o 'neill has pointed out by 2025 earth 's population will
be dropping, because there will be more people going into
space than being born here, this rapid acele ration's going on
in all the sciences and applied technology, this means that if
people can't change their reality construct their imprinted
models, their maps and models of reality, they're going to be
increasingly uncomfortable, and neuropolitics is the only do-
it-yourself manual, so far, that tells you how to rewire your
nervous system from the inside out to keep up with incoming
signals so you don't have to screen out new signals and you
don't have to be afraid of them and you can make a new
reality map as often as necessary.

discouragement is bad for the nervous system, bad for the
glands, it does all kinds of things to the stomach acids . . .
it's to be avoided at all costs, it lowers the energy level in
general, the first thing you got to learn in practical neuro-
politics is to stay high all the time, negative energy is just
wasted energy.

an energy slave is a machine that's the equivalent of a
human being working for you eight hours a day. that's a unit
that[buckyj fuller worked out, based on aristotle's idea that
the moral equivalent of slavery was machinery, aristotle said
we could abolish slavery when we had machines to do those
jobs, well, of course, first we abolished chattel slavery and
started wage slavery, the next step is to abolish wage
slavery, eventually, we'll be able to turn the work all over to
the machines, as a matter of fact muscle labor is becoming
increasingly obsolete and most of the routine forms of
mental labor are becoming increasingly obsolete too.

. . . communication is only truly possible between equals,
you know you're unequal when you're in a situation where
you can't communicate, did you ever try to communicate
with a government official? you can't! because you're not
equal, they have power over you. if you've ever been in a
marriage where you couldn't communicate with your mate,
that meant that there wasn't any equality in the relationship,
it was authoritarian, so any authoritarian structure — in the
family, in corporations, in armies and so on — leads to
communication jamming and what i call progressive
disorientation.

when you pit science and mysticism together, you get an
astonishing new product utterly unlike any of the mysticism
that ever existed before and utterly unlike the science that
existed before, we've got a whole generation of turned- on
scientists and scientifically-curious mystics who are
working together and making fantastic breakthroughs in
consciousness that are going to absolutely revolutionize this
planet, and that's really what intelligence increase means, it
means learning to use our nervous systems for maximum
ecstatic functioning at all times.

learn how to control your own nervous system and the
whole universe is yours, this is the goal of the philosophers,
in alchemical terms, when you learn to turn all incoming
impressions to your advantage, then you're the richest
person on the planet, everything turns to gold for you,
because you're turning it into gold, that's the transmutation
the alchemists were working for.

the difference between domesticated primates such as
the american medical association, let's say, and the ordinary
dog or cat is not very great, which is why behaviorist
psychology is so successful, as long as people are
performing at this fairly robotic level of stimulus-response,
they aren't much different from dogs or cats, it's only when
you turn on the higher circuits and begin to taste reactions
before you experience them and begin reprogramming
yourself that you are entirely beyond the explanations of the
behaviorists. they can only say you don't exist, they can't
explain you any more.

if people start asking for happiness instead of power from
their government, they'll get a different kind of government.

. . . the sanest thing we can do is to try to get ourselves
more space, more time, and more intelligence to enjoy space
and time, if enough people can see that, we get it. if they go
on with their baboon-like territorial squabbles, we might not
get it. we might lay the whole planet to waste. com pg 24

it's only when you turn on
the higher circuits and begin
to taste reactions before
you experience them and
begin reprogramming
yourself that you are
entirely beyond the
explanations of the
behaviorists.

if people can't change their
reality constructs, their
imprinted models, their
maps and models of reality,
they're going to be
increasingly uncomfortable.

learn how to control your
own nervous system and the
whole universe is yours, this
is the goal of the
philosophers, in alchemical
terms, when you learn to
turn all incoming
impressions to your
advantage, then you're the
richest person on the planet.

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greatest hits of the new age

somerset mau mau

strange things goin' on, down in peru

people fly in' through the sky
they might come down in a year or two

then we all shall know
the reason why . . .

everybody's movin' to the andes
— somerset mau mau, live larynx album

just what the hell is going on, anyway? what gives, with the sudden
emergence on the scene of so many emergency insurgents? from the
psychedelic shamans to the lifespringers, from silva mind control psychics to
the rainbow tribe, werner erhard to jane roberts, scientific occultists,
pyramid seers, neo-pagans and sub-genii; they all vie for a slice of the
consciousness pie. men's empowerment workshops are proliferating at a
phenomenal rate (a sticky mess, for sure!) while the pop culture
celebrates the age of the androgynous idol on screen and vinyl, everyday
life in the new age can be kind of spooky, with friends sitting closer to the
door and such, in that spirit, i present a primer for operating the bio-
computer in some of the tweakier manifestations of our popular brain, in
this, the golden age of human potential.

best training — take control of your life by
taking control of your bladder, pee freely,
but only if you must.

neuro-linguinni programming — students are
taught to make their own fresh pasta with
tasty clam sauce, all under the watchful eye
of a facilitator trained to interpret in
storybook fashion, each student's private
psychodrama enacted in the noodle therapy,
each student must share their noodles.

shamans without shame — is a support group
for frustrated medicine men and women,
through methods similar to those used
successfully on agoraphobics, city-shamans
are taught to shake their rattles and beat
their drums, without feeling like assholes.

common groins — is a men's group that
strives for a "crotch consciousness, "
achieved through regular empowering
exercises such as chest-beating, heavy
drinking, swearing and grab-ass. weekend
seminars are held in wooded areas, where
the students can shoot things and do more
heavy drinking.

windspring lovecreek heartfelt bucksnort
school — learn how to massage your toaster;
find edible and downright tasty hog's in a
public John; train your kundalini to fetch the
paper, fasting, slowing and nibbling
programs are available.

a course in amazing — "everyday, in every
way, i'll do what someone else tells me to. "
this powerful mantra contains the crux of
the amazing teachings; a collection of 365
different things to think about; one for each
day of the year, after a couple hundred days
of amazing, you won't want to think about
anything else, goodforyoul

the nietzschshi'ites of north america — this
group combines the philosophy ofnietzsche
with the wisdom of the shi'ite moslems. one
can consider the will to power while
cleaning one's sphincter with a small
pebble.

the alexanderthe great technique — this is
not an exercise system, students become
aware of how they can learn to run, walk,
talk and solve problems, just like alexander
the great, successful graduates express
feelings of "total power, "genuine impulses
to "conquer the world," some vague "sexual
tweaks" and sudden proclivities to "ride
horses with sweaty men. " this one is hot!

ralphian massage — a big, muscular diesel
mechanic comes to your home and rips your
lips off.

church of the glowing swiss account — trade
your luxury car for peace of mind and a
grass matin kildeer, north dakota. sounds
too good to be true, doesn't it? the reverend
jack dinero, ascended master and former
cpa, has organized a permanent retreat for
those ready to take the big step toward total
self-immolation, act soon; jack says he has a
big surprise in store for his next 1,500
devotees, don't be left out on all the fun/

these are just a few of the opportunities awaiting the true seeker in the
new age. save your money and choose carefully, if none of the above
strikes your fancy, consider sending a donation (be generous) to the

somerset mau mau institute of meta-flux programming and tweak crisis
center, we wdldo the rest. tna„K

mau mau

psychopharmacognosticon

terence mckenna

Utopia, a friend of mine remarked recently that believing
in Utopia was tantamount to believing in mass murder, his
supposition being that Utopias are the mirrors of ideologies
that usually first must purify the grist of politics— human
beings — in rather harsh and unpleasant ways, this set me to
pondering how well the Utopian program of science that was
so widely anticipated before the world wars has fared, the
faustian path, which seeks the resolution of the dilemma of
transcience by overcoming nature through macho domination
has led deeper and deeper into the byways of carnival magic
called scientific modernism, all the mass murdering
ideologies genuflect to the notion of science, this ranges
over the political spectrum from the bullshit genetics of the
nazis to the woo/y psychology of marxism.

fortunately the true governors of society are great
dynamic currents in the unconscious of our species, and it is
these currents, by the slow revelation of idea complexes, the
jungian archetypes, that channel the evolution of culture,
here a different program and a different Utopian image are
present, i owe this notion to guy davenport' s book the
geography of the imagination, it is that the emerging current
is one which, within the context of the cultural momentum
imparted to the situation by modernity, seeks to realize archaic
values, mcluhan anticipated this, it is the notion that in much
the way that the renaissance used the cultures of classical
greece and rome to provide a guiding image out of feudalism
so the resolution of the 20th century's global crises is to
cast back to the late neolithic for "new" values, this notion
sheds light on the contradictive fury of our century. Joyce,
guernica, auschwitz, lunar landings, nuclear weapons,
psychedelic religion, psychoanalysis and computer
networking— markers on a path that may eventually carry us
toward actually choosing functional anarchy as one viable
path for human beings.

anarchy can only function in an atmosphere of tribal and
individual responsibility, we are only at the beginning of the
age of human and machine interaction and the technology
and pharmacology of group mindedness and telepathy, the
overmind and the collectivity of mind are becoming objects
of experience for significant numbers of people, such people
are linguistic catalysts, changing reaction rates in the
development of local languages, the objects of psychedelic
experience will emerge into the general experience of being
when the evolution of language permits this, responsible
anarchy, based in a cybernetic ally controlled "body-
modeled" social environment will remain a magnet for some
portion of futurism until it is tried. cont. page 24

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so hesitates in morning's path, as

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through time — space
beyond the present — gravity

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zarkov and grade

zarkov and grade are two notorious
addheads with almost 20 years' experience
in the areas of mythology, philosophy,
psychoactive drugs, cosmology and
irreverence, they currently fund their
private researches by holding down jobs
as investment bankers with large
corporations, the results of these
researches occasionally appear in self-
published pamphlets under the general
title "notes from underground. " recently,
high frontiers sponsored a gathering so
that grade and zarkov could indulge
themselves in their favorite pastime . . .
talking about these topics, some of the
more interesting and outlandish anecdotes
appear below.

zarkov: the most unexpected and one of
the weirdest experiences we've had was
on mushrooms potentiated by harmala
alkaloids, based on the plant we used, we
estimate that we had about 150-250
milligrams of mixed harmala alkaloids
which we each took with 7.5 grams of
dried stropharia cubensis mushrooms, it
was an experience where the mushroom
visions got brighter and brighter, then,
when i got to the point where they were
unignorable, i was able to move around
within the vision space, finally, i entered
into the vision itself, so that i was part of
the vision, the interesting thing was that
the characteristics of the vision were
unchanged, the visions were still
psilocybin visions, it was almost as if the
harmala had provided a beautiful stage
and lighting, built the auditorium, and then
the mushroom provided the stage
direction, plot and some of the characters.

the experience includes visions of about
50 or 60 different alien worlds, sometimes
there was a soundtrack, sometimes there
was a voice-over discussion and
sometimes there was an argument that
went along with the visions. I was free to
move around in any particular world or i
was free to, in effect rip the curtain of
the vision and walk through to another
world, the trip was a series of vision after
vision where i was trying to make direct
contact with whatever was in charge of
the visions.

on that particular trip i did not succeed
in having a direct vision of the mushroom
entities or a direct conversation with the
voices that terence [mckenna] talks about,
however, on a succeeding trip, i did. i
mean an experience of the literal, walk-
right-into-your-livingroom, stand-there-and-
talk-to-you variety, only when you look
around, you aren't in your livingroom
anymore.

harmala alkaloids occur in several
plants, for example, syrian rue, which,
used in combination with psilocybin
mushrooms, could have been the soma of
the ancients, we've been doing some
reading in greek literature just this week
and there seems to be references among
some of the healing cutis to the use of
peganum harmala (syrian rue), the best
known use of harmala is in yagd or
ayahuasca in south america. often it is
used alone, but it seems that to get the
most interesting visions, it is used with
other tryptamines, primarily dmt-containing
plants.

we are quite interested in this area of
research and have additional harmala
experiments planned for the fall.

grade: i had a similar experience on that
combination in terms of choosing among a
selection of visions, but what was
interesting to me was that starting with
that particular combination and with
subsequent mushroom trips, we had our
first fully-coupled trips, that is. we were
getting exactly the same material at the
same time, however, often we get it in
different forms, for instance, i'll be seeing
something and zarkov will get the dialogue . .^

zarkov: . . . or grade will hear a voice
and i'll see something, the circumstances
are usually a high-dose trip in a quiet
darkened room with eyes closed, we will
have the experience in a trance state and
then we'll ask the other, "well, what
happened?" then we'll find out it's the
same material, furthermore, it's like a
serial, there is internal structure, a story,
this is unlike Isd alone, which is
kaleidoscopic, there is a sequential chain,
start to finish, that is describable.

grade: now in the case we're talking
about, the mushrooms were eaten first,
the harmala was a simple plant extract
and it was smoked, i assume, because
yagd is usually ingested as a boiled-water
infusion (often with dmt admixtures), that
the effects are different, it's probably
more intense.

zarkov: almost all of our far-out trips have
been on combinations of psychedelics. one
thing we have found is that the timing —
that is, the order you take the drugs in —
makes a dramatic difference, for example,
the combination of which we have had the
most experience is Isd combined with
methoxylated amphetamines, there the
timing is crucial, usually we start with
mda or mmda. when the Isd is added, the
trip is not so much different in form as it
is in content, mda alone gives you
tremendous age regression capabilities,
you start talking about your third birthday
and things like that . . .

grade: . . . but add Isd and you get what
you could call past lives and false memory
imagery, that is, imagery, feeling or visions
of being in another time, another place or
another personality.

zarkov: using mmda pretty much roots you
firmly in the "now. " it's also a little bit more
other-directed, similar to "adam." in fact,
many times people have equated adam with
mmda, somewhat incorrectly, since adam
usually refers to mdm.

the mda-lsd combinations, in terms of
synthetic combinations, have been the
most consistent and controllable, both
grade and i have consistent series of
personal visions, often times including the
direct perception of and discussion with
an entity we call the goddess.

the model we use is that the mda, with
its age-regression, including past lives,
gives you all possibilities of all the people
you were or could have been throughout
history, or it gives you the capability of
being you in certain places back through
history, the Isd, we always say, gives you
the inside of your own head, it gives you
all the possible historical potentialities of
who you are or can be. when you take
mda and Isd simultaneously, you get a sort
of matrix multiplication effect where you
can observe yourself in all possible
incarnations, in our case these have
always seemed to be lineal ancestors, the
goddess entity sometimes explains the
personal meaning of these visions to you
directly. contpg24

the model we use is that the
mda, with its age-
regression, including past
lives, gives you all
possibilities of all the people
you were or could have
been throughout history, or
it gives you the capability of
being you in certain places
back through history, the
Isd, we always say, gives
you the inside of your own
head, it gives you all the
possible ahistorical
potentialities of who you are
or can be. when you take
mda and Isd simultaneously,
you get a sort of matrix
multiplication effect where
you can observe yourself in
all possible incarnations.

the first time i witnessed the
mass consumption of mda at
a sex party, a usually
relatively shy woman stood
up and said, "there are six
horny, hopped -up women in
the not tun and we hope
there are some men who
want to fuck us!" to lead the
party off.

there will always be a few people in each generation who
will want to explore their own selves via Isd. even if it's, you
know, what? — three million every year who try it for the
first time? there's no way it can be suppressed. Isd is a
famous three-letter word, it's had a bad press so far. but the
good press is that those who now take it will take it because
they want to take it.

i think it's a question of knowing the ropes now. like
finding pornography in 19th century f ranee — if you knew the
ropes, you could get anything you wanted in pan's, if you
know the ropes in santa cruz, you can get anything you want
in santa cruz i'm sure, whatever turns you on. and there will
always be this group, perhaps up to three million a year, who
will try Isd. they don't have to have a guru; they don't have to
be members of a group like "est"; they don't have to do
anything except trust their own minds, since the majority are
never going to do that, there's never going to be any fear of
Isd being a popular drug, even if it was in the drugstores,
then one out of twenty would buy it.

Isd is a winner because generation after generation after
generation will take it there will be a minority group always,
at present, there maybe three million, there are, you know,
20 million plus who smoke mindless psychedelics like grass
and hash, it's ongoing, and in no way can be suppressed, there
will always be divine chemists who will make it. there may
be new drugs and old drugs and different drugs, but Isd will
always have a place for certain kinds of people — usually
intelligent and sensitive, with the usual effects, minus the
freakouts as we get to know more and more about it. i mean,
in 100 years there'll be no such thing as a treakout. less than
that.

there were only really 11 or 12 inner brotherhood, the guys in
laguna were prospective candidates for the inner circle, but the
inner circle was at the ranch, if you lived at the ranch, you had
autonomy over the people in laguna. andiftim or myself came
into laguna from the ranch and wanted anything, they would get
it straight away anything— cars, coke, hash, whatever was
around would be broughtto us. yeticouldn 'tsee the differences
between the guys at laguna and the guys at the ranch, except
that the guys at the ranch were two or three years older, they all
seemed pretty much the same to me, and i couldn't quite
understand how the selection process worked to get into the
inner group, but it was like that very hierarchical.

imean they had to be, obviously, completely trustworthy,
they would have had to be tested on various missions, they
would probably have had to have been arrested several
times and not broken down or been an informant, they
probably would have to have been good drivers, good
travelers, nice, and have a nice wife, imean that's for
openers, and they should be able to smoke a lot of hash
without flaking out and have trips every three or four days
without freaking out. and they all wanted to be given
assignments, so they could prove their worth, like go there.

bring this back, audit didn't matter whether they wee
busted, as long as they didn't inform, so they all wanted to be
given assignments, it was a fantastic situation, when you
think about it. go to turkey and pick up a kilo there, they
were all ready, it was a religious zeal— that people are
happier if they are turned on, that life is better suited to
being high, in addition to all the other things ijust mentioned,
they had to be altruistic, kind and loving, there was the
selection process.

they were not altruistic in the [edward o.J wilson sense,
but they practiced altruism intuitively, because they believed
that what they were doing was a divine calling, they were
called, and so they paid homage to a power greater than
themselves, and this allowed them to take what we would
call incredible risks, so they were like mr. magoo, you know,
when he walks past a bridge and the bridge falls, he doesn't
know, he doesn't see it. and the brotherhood was like that,
except at the end. also, you've got to remember that the
brotherhood was never more than 11 or 12 people, and also
you've got to remember that a lot of people after the
brotherhood split off— some are on the run now, some are
dead— that a lot of people selling grass and some selling
hash said they were one of the brothers.

Isd is a winner

michael hollingshead in conversation
with peter Stafford

because they saw that the brothers only dealt the finest
and the purest and the highest thing they could get hold of.
and if it wasn't that, they'd keep looking all the time for
something that turns you on— right? so a lot of people would
say, "oh, igot this from the brotherhood, " or "this is acid
one of the brothers gave me. " audit wasn't.

yippie vs. yuppie: a yummie commentary

r.u. sin us

in October of 1984, abbie hoffman and jerry rubin came to
sen frencisco to debate yippie vs. yuppie philosophy, r.u.
sirius, neopsychedelic pop party presidential candidate, was
in attendance, this is mr. sirius' commentary on yippie vs.
yuppie phenomena, anybody foolish, wise or crazy enough to
be a yummie should contact sirius through high frontiers.

yippie vs. yuppie — a yummie commentary
r.u. sirius

if you recall, a yippie is (or was) a member of the youth
international party, an amalgamation of '60s new left and
hippie attitudes and theories, abbie hoffman, jerry rubin and
paulkrassner started the yippies in 1967, a time of great
optimism, exuberance . . . intoxification, even, yippie! was
the joyful yelp of a triad of psychedelicized, mccluhanized,
radical, political humorists who knew they were catching
the next wave, we were to ride that wave all the way
through "the revolution" to a non-authoritarian, anarcho-
communist Utopia, i believed this, i was 15 when yippie
emerged, it seemed to be a vision worth fighting over, i
became a yippie. i'm glad i did. more on yippies later.

a yuppie is a young, urban professional . . . or a young
upwardly mobile professional, take your pick, yuppie is, of
course, a media-created term which wouldn't have existed
without yippie, which was a myth created by the yippies to
use the media, yippie, in turn, was derived from hippie, a
media-created term, in this regard, yippie stands alone as a
self-created identity, in the '80s, we refer to this as
empowering, yippies used to call this "fucking the system. "
different lines for different times, yummies call it a really
great shoooo and want to know where the party is, now that
the show is over, welf, the party is over at our place! but
more on yummies later.

getting confused? well, it's time to get those mental juices
flowing by participating in this quiz, get your number 2
pencils.

quiz-mutation 101

1. which came first . . . the hippie or the egg?

a) the hippie

b) the egg

c) jann wenner

d) life was seeded on this planet long ago
by a dna sperm-ship

e) none of the above

f) all of the above

2. why did the yuppie cross the road?

a) to buy property

b) everyone else was crossing the road and
he/she wanted to fit in

c) jann wenner

d) life was designed on this planet to work
for everybody

e) none of the above

f) all of the above

3. why doesn't jerry rubin or abbie hoffman
like Isd anymore?

a) politicians can't risk transcending
space-time categories

b) more fun than a human being out
to be allowed to have

c) jann wenner

d) life is an existential cuckold

e) none of the above

f) all of the above

4. why did the yummie take the hippie and the
egg across the road to share some Isd with
the yippie and the yuppie?

a) yippie!

b) to get to the other side

c) jann wenner

d) life was created by goddess at play
and you're here to have fun, stupid

e) none of the above

f) all of the above

about yummies

if you're stuck on the late '60s/ early '70s groove, you
might still be somewhat of a yippie. this isn't a put-down,
many aspects ofyippiedom . . . anarchism, outrage,
funkiness, risk-taking, media consciousness ...are shining
aspects of the evolving yummie perspective.

now, if you're stuck on trying to "get with the program" in
the '80s, and if you're not overly brilliant you might be a
yuppie, this isn't a put-down, many aspects of yuppiedom . . .
wealth, third-wave technology, personal independence and
growth, functionalism, taking charge, high-quality drugsf!) . . .
are shining aspects of the evolving yummie perspective, you
know, as a matter of fact i saw the second-best minds of my
generation running through the gentrified streets at dawn in
search of a quiche lorraine. and, by god, they found it!

now yummies . . . yummies come in three different
varieties, this chart should give you some initial perspective.

yummie' — young, upwardly-mobile mutants

talents

music

drugs

computer

trance-

dmt.

whiz.

music &

hydergine.

chemistry.

other

mdma

science.

exotica

(tends to

mind-

eno/

stay away

technologies.

fripp

from the)

media

bowie/
byrne

wealth

politics

top of the pops

more likely

evolutionary.

tim leary

than yummie2

libertarian

r.a. wilson

or yummie3

terence

to be

mckenna

well off.

but not

necessarily

yummie2 — young urban mutant

talents

music

drugs

bullshit

hardcore.

Isd,

detection.

industrial

alcohol.

rock & roll

music

methamphet-

aesthetics.

amines,

art anti-art.

the

survival.

disturbance

wealth

politics

top of the pops

highly

revolution/

william s.

unlikely

evolution.

burroughs,

anarchism

brion
gysin

yummie3 — young, urgently-molting mutant

talents

music

drugs

wild

selectivity

unnecessary

(psychic)

is irre/event

(librium,

powers.

since any

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creating

sounds can be

incidents.

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unusual

in the mind

appearances &

to something

disappearances

suitably
bizarre

wealth

politics

top of the pops

no

alien,

John hinckley

extreme

phi/lip k. dick

finally, a few things might be said about some basic
differences between this new yummie phenomenon and its
yippie and yuppie geneology. yippies, for instance, still worry
about selling out. yummies don't worry too much at all, but
when they do they worry about selling mutational artifacts at
a reasonable profit, yuppies are hung up on the upward
mobility of their professional careers and bank accounts, the
problem here isn't so much that they're selling out it's that
they're selling themselves short, when a yummie uses the
term upward mobility, she is usually referring to (as the
leary/ wilson model would have it) turning on the higher
circuits of the brain, or (and another tip of the hat to tim and
bob) unlimited space, unlimited time, and unlimited
contelligence to enjoy same, (or, perhaps, mountain
climbing.) so here we are... 1984 . . . yummie ...the
unseen, unacknowledge phenomenon . . . the next mutation
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hoving is. the word "wizard" in fact looms
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london town . . . a fourteen year partnership
withjose limon, lasting through Union's
death in 1972 . . . started his own company
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there's this line about duchamp, alchemical
interpretations of his work, and his response was that this
may be correct; but as far as he's concerned there is nothing
consciously being done along those lines, and that he
is plugging in to things of that nature subconsciously, when i
read it, it had a certain ring to it through myself; when igot
into these marks, some friends came by with a book on
alchemical symbols and started showing me these things
and, you know, would Hike to keep this thing, the
interpretation of those things andi was like, not really, the
whole process of working, even the titles, is on a
subconscious orientation, that's the underpinning of the
work and it's a way that i feel comfortable working.

the pieces, in time, name themselves, literally, it is this
thing, this living personna coming into being, and so nothing
is thought out in advance, the whole surrounding sea is one
of unknown gestures; that's the broth we're swimming in.
how do you touch in day-to-day? how do you touch outer
perimeters which are a part of us, part of us personally and
part of us as a whole? there's something aesthetically
satisfying about this whole aspect of the subconscious that
still — you know, it's worked its way into all of the arts, into
the whole — it's gotten to be a socially acceptable kind of
thing.

the subconscious — it's there, and there are things that
start happening./ ask questions and i get answers, in
different ways, it's how much you embrace that different
zone, of correlations, of synchronisms, my life, more and
more, operates and gears in that zone, waiting for little
scintillations, the sculptures and drawings become like the
media, the glue that holds one psychically together, it's
about that which the life is woven and fit into, constructing,
working in this manner, and then all these correlations and
associations that start revealing themselves, by working in
this seemingly haphazard way. i think what happens is that
who iam starts to take a form, i mean creating, making,
building, drawing; they're all ways of defining and
delineating my realm, using the subconscious as the
loundation. there's a certain truth there, the dream state, it's
unfettered, there to be interpreted, and it's loaded with
meaning, but i'm not into the analysis, the object of the
drawing done . . . at that point i'm a common viewer, with no
more insight than the next person.

i am plugged into this idea that the artist is the medium,
literally, as it's passing through you; you've got to be
mentally and physically in tune for these kinds of
occurrences to take place, the intriguing creative activity is
to go right into the vein of it. to take a scalpel and cut. what
is the mechanism? how does this mechanism make for
renewal? i can almost define what the intrigue is. it's like an
organism

the whole surrounding sea
is one of unknown gestures;
that's the broth we're
swimming in. how do you
touch in day to day? how do
you touch outer perimeters
which are a part of us, part
of us persona fly and part of
us as a whole/

the idea is that the work becomes an over/ay, and us in
transition, beings in metamorphosis, not static, biologically
and physiologically, nothing's static, the universe, everything
is constantly in flux, taking that idea, and the subconscious,
the idea of plugging into that whole sea of thought of our
whole geneaological past how many chords can i touch?
can i get back to when we were just protozoa? where's that in
the picture; or dust from how many stellar explosions . . . the
egyptian thing, five suns, and now, cosmologically taking us,
to say "yes, " this matter basically goes back to five burned-
out suns, this whole thing about psychic link-up to the
present future, and past to whatnot how far does it go?
what's to be revealed? the whole posture is one of knowing
nothing, what's inside of me to be pulled out and how much
is there to be extricated? and then manipulating it

it's like palms and palm reading, you can alter those lines
by thought and feeling, you can start them moving around, i
mean, a lot of funny things started happening to a lot of
these pieces; what's the implication of this? it seems that ifi
immerse my whole visiual field, it will alter what can be
extrapolated from inside, but it is what is going on inside!
that's the thing, these are readings; these metal objects
become external fossilizations of internal processes, how
does a shell come about? what's responsible for that shell in
terms of the organism that is alive and living inside of that
mo Husk configuration? basically my waking hours are like
something of a dream, my ideal state is to be just sort of. . .
hip. if you believe it, it's real.

this is what we're made of: these wierd little weaves and
spider tales, it's about getting things to go out and happen in
space in a pretty rapid way. things happen in space . . . the
idea of us, of our flesh, our hands, our fluids, you know,
ethereal things, effervescence, and the being transference
of this to that harder substance, to fossilize; and what is the
relationship between this organism and the structure that
has come out? i don't look for associations, i just work, later,
as the process goes on and on in time, these correlations
start happening, the idea that ifi walk around for three
months with this little magnifying glass in front of my eyes
looking at bugs, looking at anything, perhaps what goes on
will start affecting what comes out. yes, the spaceship is on
automatic, but at the same time the pilot can make some
course adjustments. com pg 27

the intriguing creative
activity is to go right into the
vein of it. to take a scalpel
and cut. what is the
mechanism? how does this
mechanism make for
renewal? i can almost
define what the intrigue is.
it's like an organism . . .
the idea is that the work
becomes an overlay, and us
in transition, beings in
metamorphosis, not static,
biologically and
physiologically, nothing's
static.

vitalism: the reason beyond question

Joseph sluskyin conversation with dale

the idea of making
something, of creating
something, is literally
making our self, mimicking
the whole genesis of the
organism.

revolution and evolution:

you can't have one without the other

high frontiers interview with paul krassner

h f: you're primarily known as a legend of
the 1960s, what would you say that your
legend consists of, in your own mind.

p k : what i'm infamous for is the
realist, which was published from 1958 to
1974. it's like a resume for the radical has-
beens employment company, also i was an
original founder of the yippies and gave this
phenomenon, which already existed, its
name.

h f : would you say that when you started it
off, was it more of a psychedelic warrior
phenomenon or was it more of a left-wing
political phenomenon?

p k : the phenomenon was the coalition of
those two polarities, they associated with
each other, dope being the medium, you
could see it happening before your eyes, the
straight politic os began to let their hair
grow and psychedelic dropouts you'd see at
civil rights rallies and antiwar
demonstrations, it was like a new breed,
hippies who had lost their innocence and
new lefties who were getting turned on. it
was already there, and it only needed a
name, and it was the right name because it
worked.

h f : it was very different when it first started
than what happened around '69 and 70 and
71 with weather underground "off the pig, "
and that whole attitude, and then really
different again, as they still exist.

p k : i guess all organizations represent the
personalities of their leaders, and it's a
different set of leaders.

p k : you used the word revolution, i didn't
use the word revolution, that period
represented to me an evolutionary jump in
consciousness around the world, i don't
really see any difference between revolution
and evolution, you can't have one without
the other, they're both a process, a
revolution never ends, any more than an
evolution, or, once a revolution ends, then
it's probably a dictatorship, i would think.

p k : reagan got in, probably, through a
series of political and cultural
assassinations that lead to a mandate, when
i perform on stage, i talk about the fact that
the republican convention was at da/las, and
then i add, at the texas book depository, on
the sixth floor, to honor their roots, a lot of
young people don't know what i'm talking
about because they forget those details
about the assassination of John kennedy. in
effect, that was like a coup, i mean, nobody
goes through all that trouble to get rid of
somebody if you don't want to fill inbetween.
so i don't know what they did to lyndon
Johnson to make him resign, a man with that
kind of maniacal ego . . .but then, also,
bobby kennedy and martin I other king and
malcolm x and waiter reuther and who
knows . . . in one year, the three most
socially active musicians died: John lennon,
harry chapin and bob marley. now, it may be
all coincidence, but when you have a book,
like the cia does, about getting rid of
cultural leaders as well as political leaders .
. . . if we can suggest to nicaragua to get rid
of these people to get power, there's no
reason we shouldn't do it on this side of the
border.

p k : the cia was using Isd for experiments,
to try and control people, and it backfired
when people started doing it on their own,
deprogramming themselves from the culture
and then reprogramming themselves to a
new focus, that became a threat to the
economy even, in terms of . . . people were
making their own clothing, they were
sharing cars, they were making their own
bread, the implications of this lifestyle, if it
became a popular trend, was a threat to the
economy, you know, who needs insurance if
you have a large extended family where
everybody takes care of each other, and the
insurance companies practically run the
country, they're the ones who get laws
passed so that they don't have to pay
premiums.

hf:do you think that the depression was h f : they were sort of the original punks.

created to stop that from happening, i mean,

they must have read marcuse and fuller just h f: high times in a way emerged from the

like we did. and they could have said, "wait a yippies also, to the extent that it was torn

second, we can't let this happen, bring back forcade.

scarcity. "

p k: i don't know, when i was in college, i
passed my economics course by reading
that, it's interesting, you look so optimistic,
yet can be so cynical, or you can recognize
that cynicism that somebody else might use.
i guess i don't give them that much credit
with manipulating the economy, but i guess
that it's possible.

h f : it's my theory that the depression just
sort of emerged to stop people from having
post-scarcity consciousness, that seems to
be the thing that was left behind from the
late '60s. like in f ranee in '68 and the
yippies. white panthers, the kinds of
demands that were raised at that time were
very Utopian, based loosely on the post-
scarcity anarchism idea.

p k : there's a renewal now. do you know lee
swensen, who talks about scarcity and he's
started a thing in berkeley called the
commons . . . he's teaching about paul
goodman's work.

p k : just today on the news . . . i got a lot of
work done so i rewarded myself by smoking
a joint and getting a swiss almond vanilla ice
cream and watching the news, which has
become a form of entertainment even
though, you know, it's about tragedy and
comedy, they had a feature about ethiopia,
the starving kids there, and they showed
them, and i thought, well, there i am, i'm
looking at a film of kids who are starving
right now and still simultaneously enjoying
my ice cream, and not feeling guilty about it
because i see those kids when i'm eating the
ice cream even if they're not on the screen,
it's just part of your awareness, somehow,
somewhere, also, when i see those kids and
i'm not eating an ice cream, i'm aware of
the ice cream, i suppose that's yin/yang. i
never know the technical terminology for
what i have learned by intuition, i didn 't read
my first book till i was 21 so that i have to
go by what i have experienced 'cause i
didn't know the names for anything, which
turned out to be an advantage because
you're not seeing it through somebody else's
definition.

p k: well, torn forcade was essentially with
the zippies and it really emerged out of his
subsidizing the publishing effort with dope
dealing, which would have been snitching to
say then but now is. . .

h f: legendary.

p k: so i think that when he killed himself,
something happened to their cash flow.

p k : they [psychedelics] were a catalyst to
breaking down the conditioning of the
institutions, the brainwashing of the culture,
i remember when i interviewed leary when
he was always talking about how it should
just be a spiritual trip, and a lot of people
just did it for pleasure, and we had this
whole dialogue about . . . well, maybe
pleasure is a spiritual trip, i mean, pleasure
as opposed to irresponsible hedonism, i'm
not sure exactly what irresponsible
hedonism is. i guess it means using a rusty
whip.

drug use evolves along with everything
else, i took xtc the other day. so i might take
xtc now, instead of Isd. watch them outlaw
that because they want control, i think
world war III is being fought in a way
already, over which drugs are legal and
which drugs are illegal, ultimately, it seems
to come down to that, wars are even being
financed on the basis of illegal drugs.

h f: what did you think of xtc?

p k: i vomited and had feelings of love, in
that order.

p k : the realist started 'cause i felt like an
alien without knowing the word for it. yet i
never lost faith . . . i can't be the only one.
and when i started doing the realist and
when i started performing . . . like i
performed at town hall just for realist
readers and advertised only in the magazine,
and they all came and you've never seen an
audience looking around at each other like
that, just to see what the other aliens look
like, i mean, they were using the magazine
as a touchstone.

revolution and evolution, you
can't have one without the
other, they're both a
process, a revolution never
ends, anymore than an
evolution, or, once a
revolution ends, then it's
probably a dictatorship, i
would think.

i never know the technical
terminology for what i have
learned by intuition, i didn't
read my first book till i was
21 so that i have to go by
what i have experienced
'cause i didn't know the
names for anything, which
turned out to be an
advantage because you're
not seeing it through
somebody else's definition.

maybe pleasure is a spiritual
trip, i mean, pleasure as
opposed to irresponsible
hedonism, i'm not sure
exactly what irresponsible
hedonism is. i guess it
means using a rusty whip.

h f: what do you think aboutthe yippies at
this point? do you read overthrow?

p k : it has some important stuff in h. i've
had my differences with the current leaders
ofyippie. it's different, i mean, they started
out as zippies at first, anyway, and then
became yippies. and the purpose of the
zippies was to compete with the original
yippies.

the best of the realist, by paul krassner is
available through running press book
publishers, 125 south 22 nd st, Philadelphia,
pa 19103. $8.95 plus $1 postage.

something of the aphrodisiac character of
datura is suggested by chimon mana, the
jimson weed maiden of the hopi. like the
taoist fox woman, she is conceived of as
preying on males, eventually driving them
insane, such traditions, telling as they are,
have been largely ignored, however, in the
enthnobotanic literature.

the genus datura is certainly the most
problematic genus in the field of
psychoactive drug plants, although its potent
alkaloid content (atropine, hyoscyamine, and
scopolomine among others) evoked much
interest and a considerable literature
stretching back to theophrastus, the
taxonomy of the genus has been fraught
with controversy, early herbarium samples
were carelessly identified and voucher
specimens often lacking, and as schultes
and hofmann have stated, "if the taxonomy
of the genus is still uncertain, exact
knowledge of the chemistry, from a
comparative viewpoint is chaotic. "
(schultes and hofmann 1980: 273 f.)

the alkaloids of datura are generally
associated with medieval witchcraft in the
western imagination, most accounts dwell
exclusively on its use as a stupefying agent
or its anodyne, soporific, and deli he nt
effects, medically, it has been used for
asthma, epilepsy, and, mixed with goose fat,
as an anaesthetic healing poultice for burns
and wounds, it figures prominently in
cautionary tales on the ingestion of native
plant drugs, everyone is familiar with the
Jamestown incident from which jimson weed
derives its name and notoriety, h i Id e ric
friend describes the effect of accidental
ingestion on british soldiers sent to Virginia:
"having eaten of it, they turned natural fools
for several days and spent their time, some
in blowing feathers into the air, others in a
sitting posture grinning like monkeys, and
others again pawing and fondling their
companions " (1883 i: 69)

although accidental ingestion can
certainly result in death, controlled
recreational use of datura is attested from
antiquity onwards, dioscorides tells us that
"the root being drank with wine ye quantity
of a dragm, hath ye power to effect not
unpleasant fantasies. " (gunther 1959: 470)
thophrastus recommends three twentieths
of an ounce of the root be taken "if the
patient is to become merely sportive and to
think himself a fine fellow; twice this dose if
he is to go mad outright and have
delusions. " (1977 ii: 273) giambattista delta
porfa chronicling the experiments of the
"otiosi" or aristocratic dabblers/ recreational
druggies of 16th century naples, says that
"a drachm of the root. . . will make men
mad without any hurt so that it is a most
pleasant spectacle to behold such mad
whimseys and visions ..." "but we will not
tell of those drugs that breed it for ever, only
those that may make us sport for a day, and
afterwards leave no harm . . . prey make
trial!" (1957: 219) he repeats the same
caveats as dioscorides and theophrastus as
to dosage: the dose trebled causes a
permanent alienation of mind, and
quadrupled, causes death.

garcia da orta, reporting on its use in 16th
century india in his colloquies, says "the
natives of this country do not consider the
taking of this to be dangerous, and many
take it as a joke. " (1913: 175) generally,
though, across asia, it was regarded as a
stupefying agent in the hands of robbers
(penzer, sir richard burton, gimlette, g. da
orta, taverna).

datura looms large in hindu mythology,
especially in association with the god shiva.
thunberg in his travels (v. iv, p. 91) claimed
that datura stramonium was native to Java,
in 1581 captain ark rig lit, the explorer,
learned of a coral ring of islets in the south
pacific where the death flower grew:
"hence it was named el banoor, or island of
death, this flower was so large that a man
might enter it — a cave of color and
perfume — but if he did so it was the last of
him, for, lulled by its strange fragrance, he
reclined on its lower petals and fell into
sleep from which there is no waking, then,
as if to guard his slumber, the flower slowly
folded its petals about him. the fragrance
increased and burning acid was distilled
from its calyx, but of all hurt the victim was
unconscious, and so passing into death
through splendid dreams, he gave his body
to the plant for food. " (skinner 1911: 30 f.)

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you start off with something . . . an atom, for instance — in
this case, it's a mercury atom, and the mercury atom emits
2 pairs of photons at once, and they go to different photon
detectors where they are detected and their polarization is
measured at these separate detectors, and bell shows from
the experiment that there is no way this experiment can be
explained by a local reality, even though the results are
local, it's as though these two photons were together in the
mercury atom, they go and they separate at the speed of
light, going in opposite directions, and they go on and on and
on. they can go to either side of the galaxy, but however far
apart they are, they're in instantaneous communication,
according to bell, and he can show this from the data of this
experiment, these photons are so tightly coupled together,
their correlation is so strong, that the correlation cannot be
explained by a local underlying reality.

[to prove that two photons are communicating with each
other] bell uses a very simple form of proof called reductio
ad impossible, it's related to reductio ad absurd urn except
that what you reduce things to is out-of-sight-impossible.
what bell does is he just assumes that this experiment can
be explained by any local reality whatsoever, so he assumes
locality, goes through some very basic mathematics having
to do with the results of the experiments and ends up with
one plus one is three, so that means that this assumption
that reality is local is wrong.

i' II say a little bit more about the experiment, we have this
mercury source, it looks like a sanjose streetlight, it's a
mercury vapor source that's glaring, mercury emits two
photons, a purple and a green one, and they can be arranged
to go off in opposite directions, each atom emits two
photons, that's the key to this, you get a paired situation,
then these photons go off and in their path you put a c a I cite
crystal, and what calcite is . . . it's a birefringent mineral and
H divides the beam in two. now the beam can go up or down,
h has two indices of refraction, it's measuring the
polarization in some sense, so you have a blue beam going in
one direction, hitting the calcite going up or down, and you
have counters in the up and down end of each of these
things, you measure for each event whether the green goes
up and the blue goes down or the blue goes up and the green
goes down, you just measure these things, and you get
something called a correlation function, whenever the blue
goes up and the green goes up, whenever they go into the
same channel, that's called correlation, when they go into
different channels, that's called anti-correlation, what you
measure is the percentage of correlation.

now the calcite crystals have an axis pointing in a certain
direction, when these axes are aligned, when they're both
pointing up, these photons are perfectly correlated,
whenever one goes up, the other goes up, and whenever one

the thing about physics, where it differs from philosophy,
it may be possible to put some of these things to the test, one
of my fantasies about this is, for instance, that video
cameras are competent to be observers, and one of the
things about life so far on this planet is that people have
been pretty shoddy about reporting their descriptions of
things, we've been just sorta loose, talking, sharing
experiences, if my experiences don't seem to jibe with yours,
well, maybe my memory is wrong, but now we have video
cameras, and all these tape recorders, and everyone's got
them because they're so cheap with the transistor

revolution, suppose you have half a dozen video versions of a your body, one ot 'the things we're interested in iui/dmg "at
scene and they don't jibe? you very rarely— unless you're a the consciousness theory group is conscious robots, these
tv network— have many cameras on the same ... are machines that have feelings, that can feel, and machines

[questioner: "like a football game. "J like a football game. that you can inhabit, what we 'II have is we'll have robots
[questioner, "when one guy scores a touchdown and the line that explore another planet but we will be in them,
judge says he didn't."] that's right! there's always things like essentially, we will have their body image, and we'll be
that happening in reality, you say, "well, the tv camera saw walking the surface ofjupiter and trudging through the

bell doesn't talk about consciousness, that's our version
of it. we have a little group in san francisco, the
consciousness theory group, and our guess is . . . we accept
reality as non-local, and we think that the reality that bell is
talking about is subjective reality, is the inner reality, the
reality that we experience in our heads, and presumably
which is everywhere else too. so that's another hypothesis.

in our model, the consciousness theory group model, only
minds can connect together, matter is just stubborn and
slow, but for a lot of purposes, you wouldn't have to move

the objective reality and the referee didn't, so we'll trust the
tv camera. " well, suppose it would happen someday that tv
cameras begin not agreeing, i have a name for this, it's
called "consensus domain. " [the idea] that there
are little regions where reality is the same for everyone, but
there are other regions where it's not. and if you have two tv

snows ofpluto. our bodies will be in an orb iter somewhere,
but our perceptions, our body image will be that robot, we'll
be connected by radio link and/ or be anaesthetized in some
way, so we're not connected to our own body but to the body
of this robot, so then interstellar travel becomes easy, if the
aliens have such robots, all we do is go by telepathy to their

cameras that are in different consensus domains . . . perhaps planet and inhabit their robots, like putting on a new suit of

they're owned by people with different views about the clothes, i mean, why bother taking your body when you can

world ...in the network studio, i would think that those have anew one waiting for you on alpha centuri? the robots

cameras are all in the same consensus domain, they're all are local, but consciousness is not. consciousness can go

owned by the network and they're all there for a particular floating across the . . . who knows, maybe they have a suit of

purpose, so it's important for them to agree on the particular clothes waiting for you already on tau ceti, if you know how

reality they're looking at. but people coming at it with their
own private cameras now, may be able to pick up, on tape,
different visions of the same scene, then what will we do?
how would we interpret that?

to inhabit it

what is it about matter that makes it aware? suppose i
were to give you all the hi-fi parts and computer parts that
you wanted, what would you do with them to make a little
thing which would have inner experiences like you're having
right now? where would you begin? that's the problem we're
working on right now. where does consciousness come
from? what kinds of matter does it like to be around? or
observor-created reality, and it's not solved yet this problem makes it work? it's something that psychologists call the psi-

so, why is there this consensus reality? i'll tell you how
physicists deal with that, they deal with it as a work-in-
progress, they recognize it as an important problem in the

of why there is a consensus reality.

consciousness precedes materiality, in fact as far as the
tree story goes . . . you know, "does a tree make a sound
when it falls if there's no one there to observe it"... it
doesn't even fall if there's no one there to look at it. it isn't
even there to fall.

there's this funny thing, no one's ever seen a non-local
event, in physics.

there's a quote from the golden bough, it's the definition

goes down the other goes down. . . 100% correlation, now as ofcontf9ious ma9'c- it says, "contagious magic is based

you gradually turn the axis of the crystal from one place to
another, the correlation is lessened, until when the axes are
at 90°, then you get total anti-correlation, and ' in between.
there's variations, audit's the nature of these variations that
bell looks at. and he shows you that the variation. . . i'll tell
you what it is. .. at one o'clock, when one is at one and one
is at twelve, it's 75% correlation, and when one is at twelve
and one is at two . . . when there's two hours difference, the
correlation is 25%. so as you go around the clock . . . when
they're both at twelve, you've got 100% correlation, at one
o'clock, 75%. at two o'clock, 25%. at three o'clock . . . 0%!
that doesn't sound very dramatic, but it is.

maybe i should say what physicists response to this is. let
me re-explain bell's theorem in terms of this experiment, bell
says that any reality underlying this experiment has to be
non-local, these statistics, these correlations, can't be
explained by a local reality, so there is a very large group of
physicists who say. . . "o.k., reality is non-local, bell proved
that, therefore there's no reality. "

they want to hold on to locality, that's a very important
principle in physics, so in order to hold on to locality and
bell's theorem, we will ditch reality, can you imagine that?!
here these guys are at university positions saying, "well,
we've got this choice here, guys, this guy from Switzerland
has come up with this theorem and we either have to give up
reality or locality, which is it going to be?" so they get
together in their seminar rooms and they decide, "o.k., it's
going to be reality."

it [bell's theorem] appeared in scientific american under
the latin byline, "ese estprincipe, " which is "to be is to be
perceived. " it talked about bell's theorem and the epr
experiment, and the conclusion it gave — as the orthodox
view — was that there is no longer any objective reality,
reality is created by the observor. there isn't anything out
there, but as soon as someone does an experiment, there is.
that's the orthodox view, it's just to deny reality and this
problem will go away.

there are about six different realities that belts theorem
makes possible, none of them are ordinary, they're all
preposterous, but you get to choose.

upon the assumption that substances which were once
joined together possess a continuing linkage, thus an act
carried out upon a smaller unit will affect a larger unit even
though they are physically separated. " that's a state of non-
locality, that things remain connected.

when i hear someone saying, "everything affects
everything else, " i say, "what are the limits of that
statement?" and there are limits, one of the basic limits of
everything affects everything else is that the appearances
have to be local, because all of the physics experiments that
are done are local, so there's a very curious clue being
handed us by nature, bell's theorem says that reality is non-
local, the reality underlying this is non-local, faster-man-
light, the underlying reality is faster-man-light yet what
comes from that the experiments that we see, are definitely
local, so underneath it's non-local, and above it's local, so
any connection has to be strong enough to give us bell's
theorem but weak enough so that you don't see all of this
weird shit happening every day. but there is a possibility of
seeing weird shit, there are those needs that we have for
consistancy.

that's basically my view, that i take bell's theorem at face
value. Hike to believe in a reality and bell proves that reality
is non-local, but that reality is an inner reality, it's
underneath ordinary experimentation, underneath space and
time, so you'd say, "so what? then it's outside of physics. "
which it is. it is outside of physics because we can't measure
it, by definition, but there is an inner reality that we know
about that's outside physics that we experience every day,
which is ordinary consciousness, perhaps that's the link
between physics and consciousness, that this underneath
reality is associated with mind, not in the way that the
deniers of reality would have it . . . that we subjectively
create everything, but that we are somehow under this reality
in some way, and we are the real parts of the world, the
underneath part, and what happens is connected to that, it's
no less real, so the mental aspects of life are non-local, i
would say. and then the question comes up, "well, if we're
so non-local in our minds, how come we're not all
connected?" if we are all one, how come we don't know
about it every day? how come it doesn't get in our way, if we
are all one? my guess is that we are somehow afraid that
there is a phychic price that you pay for accepting this
oneness.

phy mapping psiis the psychic component phy is the matter
component, what is the actual explicit connection between
matter and mind? it's asked in a dualistic context as if there
were mind and matter, but that's a good assumption for a
scientist because that's one that they can understand, if
mind and matter were all merged, it would be hard to ask
the question, but we'll find that out by experiment, we can
refute the dualistic hypothesis, perhaps.

scenarios continued

some new books have have appeared since our last
communique:

true hallucinations is a full-blown account of the
yage/ mushroom experience that was briefly described
indennis andterence mckenna's the invisible landscape
(seabury press, 1975). this new account (1984) comes on
eight audio cassettes — available through lux natura, box
1196, 2000 center st, berkeley, ca 94704 for $80 (plus
$4.80 sales tax in California), it is an extraordinary journey
through realms of "alien intelligence and psilocybin. " "the
wildest trip i ever took or heard of, " comments terence.
(look also for the mckenna brothers' revised edition of
psiocybin: magic mushroom growers guide, due in bookstores
shortly.)

psychedelic reflections (human sciences press, 1983) is
the latest collection of essays by prime movers in this
current phase of activity, contributers include alexander
shulgin, waiter huston dark, tim leary, norman zinberg,
and re w well, John buckman, stan grof, hanscarl leuner, ron
siege/ and char/es tart. . . with their comments on "twenty
years on an ever-changing quest" (to use shulgin' s essay
title), the editors of this work, tester yr/n spoon and james
bakalar of the harvard med. school, previously published
psychedelic drugs reconsidered (basic books, 1979).

the editors of rolling stone have issued a poorly informed
volume on how to get off drugs (simon & shuster, 1984). they
make little of the distinctions between mda and mdma, for
example, stating that effects from these distinct compounds
are "almost identical. " that mdma lasts only about half as
long as its cousin might have been worth mentioning, they
do, however, provide us with the "word of the month":
tachyphylaxis! this word refers to "a rapid rise in drug
tolerance, " a subject which we intend to explore further.

marijuana beer, a thin book of recipes based on the
experiences of the manufacturer of "high brew beer" as told
to ed rosenthal, has also arrived at bookstores, included in
the slipcover are 50 bottle labels for this specialized
product — "the beer to have when you're having only one. "
the idea here is to add marijuana during the last two or three
days of the brewing process, so its the content can be
leached out by the fermenting alcohol, we hope this hybrid
might catch on, since its effects are cannabolic rather than
alcoholic.

those having questions or useful information for us: please
write to us c/o the psychedelic education center, box 2544,
santa cruz, ca 95063.

slusky continued

i always watch whan someone is working in, like, clay
and then goes on to another medium, how it jumps off into a
new thing, carrying with it the old . . . film, for instance, the
first films were a mimic of theater; it didn't really understand
its full potentials and characteristics, so someone going to a
new media, someone well grounded in metal, you see all
those old associations, they don't understand the new and
they Jump off with what they previously knew, the idea of
making something, of creating something, is literally making
our self, mimicking the whole genesis of the organism, that
is what art is. here, you know, to go back on some sort of
streamed out level, to go back ad infinitum, to the beginning
somewhere, we're prisoners of time, there's the moment
that's apart, what about the past when we were all those
other things, when we weren't here in this form? how far
can we zoom back and link up with and touch chords?

take the whole time of the universe like it's a thousand
page book; our time is maybe the last word of the last page,
we've been here only a short time, what does that mean?
we're going somewhere else, so at this particular moment,
having become, stood erect and freed our hands; that's what
the situation around here is. this flourishing of making —
where's the book going? it's this activity, art as laboratory,
groping, tinkering, in the garage, saying this is the culture
then, this is worth reconsidering, everything seems to be in
this zone of making and reconsidering, like the coke bottle,
we're all immersed in the commercial; in this "what do we
need, what don't we need. " art is the next stage, we know
bydarwin, all this evolution thing, that we're going places,
we're talking about genetics, tinkering with things, if
everything is a push button world, then our toes are going to
drop off. what we adapt effects our physiological and
biological structure, it's a very loaded thing, talking about
elemental activity, it seems haphazard, but it's not at all,
really, what we're discussing here can alter the whole brain
patterns, can affect the behavior, maybe this whole thing of
making and doing will evolve out of itself, maybe we'll get to
the point that the nervous system takes over and we'll be
like some sort of minus emanations or something, maybe we
won't manifest ourselves at all in any physical way. it seems
that this is the stage that we 're in. that's a bit of the
fascination of these sculptures, to alienate the maker,
there's been a lot done with the mind and hands that we
know is alien, not really beneficial to our continuance as a
species, we're having to make adjustments and corrections,
we know the mind is weird stuff. . . connections on this
scale

we're in trouble if we forget the forces, these myths that
so many other civilizations and times have centered their
lives around, that's one of the pitfalls of technology; it can
give us a false sense of embracing the rational, and the
irrational, the subconscious forces, take on another
language, one thing that i tend to dwell on about the
extensions of technology; how do we bring these things into
our realm so we can understand their place? like george
oppen, this quote: "... feel myself, feel my nipples, feel my
skin . . . " — all these insulations, all these pertinences, all
these things that we adapt to extend our flesh and bones and
sensorium . . . we're getting so strung out on them that we
lose touch of the point of reference, who we are, where
we're at, and in art Hike to go back periodically, since we're
immersed in this sea of extensions, to be able to again touch
the flesh and go back to points, like, for instance, the
ritualist objects such as the "venus of willendorf" and their
reason for being; the clarity, the purity, the directness,
[interviewer's note: the "venus" is a small, abstracted
sculpture of a fertile earth mother that was held by primitive
women during sex to insure fertility.] these things clear the
air, get me on track, they force me to remember what art is
about the vitalism, the reason beyond question, you can't go
up to the woman holding that thing and criticize it in terms of
proportion, in terms of aesthetics, it's a force — a force to be
contended with, it's reason for being is sound; self-
perpetuation, continuance of the species, i think of my
sculptures in that vital way. it's viability — that's the
question, each piece is to be tested in the fire of it and the
test becomes the test of myself, that is my measure; before
the piece becomes a "public pronouncement. "

the first thing that has to be gotten in order is your
relationship to the activity, the unteachable, vhalistic
necessity, the absolutely important thing that cannot be
taught it has nothing to do with technique or skills.

at this point in time it's everything; even this driveway is
fascinating to me. this rust on the ground, this whole range
of deteriorization, or a candy store, or a woo/worth's; they
all seem to have been leveled out and are all active grist to
be dropped into the hopper to be cogitated over, salivated
on, and re composed in some new metamorphosis.

this interview took place in the driveway of Joseph
slusky's studio, October 13, 1984. i have omitted the
questions i asked because slusky's answers really
determined the form of the next question, at the time of
publication an exhibit of slusky's works at the civic
gallery in walnut creek has just come to an end. his works
can be seen at

berkeley marina; "calliope"— 210 university ave.,
"combustible purple"— 539 bryant st, san francisco
"the kaiser's song"— 2150 franklin, Oakland
"ashby odyssey"— 1350 franklin, Oakland
"calypso"— el camino b/vd, mil/brae facility of the san
francisco department of water

"they say it helps if you close your eyes,
cowboy"

terence mckenna at esalen

during a beautiful weekend in October,
terence mckenna gave a workshop at esalen
entitled "psychedelic perspectives on future
history. " a weekend with terence is like a
trip on a hallucinogen that speaks, the
setting was an ideal place to hold a
workshop for protohumans.

much of terence '$ work is an attempt to
create a consensus regarding the far-out
states reached under the influence of
tryptamine hallucinogens, since it is far too
early for definitive statements, the following
sample of things said, questions without
answers, things not said, and answers
without questions may seem disjointed and
confusing, however, this can be said for
many high-dose trips, yet each of these
statements could form the foundation for a
profitable meditation or trip, for these
statements we are completely indebted to
terence, kat and other workshop
participants, yet, since the workshop was
filtered through our admittedly warped
personalities, dear reader, you should
absolve terence of the responsibility for
what is printed below, if this article piques
your interest, a complete set of cassettes of
the seminar are available from dolphin
tapes.

stay high & stay free
grade and zarkov

the "wetware, " the feminine mentality, is
always one step ahead of the "hardware, "
the engineering.

psychedelics are a source of
reintegration and reconciliation with lost
portions of human history.

the human drive to make artifacts is as
natural as the coral polyp's process of
making coral reefs.

the creation of space colonies will
provide the opportunity for art on a scale to
shame the pyramids.

ideology has become bankrupt, the
mysteries can be perceived directly.

language was not engineered for complex
intellectual purposes.

with the use of the hallucinogens, the
sacred has become de-localized.

a person is a moving wave front of
genetic information in the here and now.

the morphogenetic field is just below the
surface in every organism.

where shamanism is not involved with
plant hallucinogens, it is probably a
theatrical show.

the mushroom is behaving like various
drugs and has taken on an interpersonal
dimension.

there was a giant punk goddess with a
green mohawk and full body armor
screaming, "is it finally strong enough for
you?"

one can emphasize the awesome and
democratic (anarchic) qualities of these
experiences.

anarchy becomes realizable given certain
kinds of people — responsible individuals
operating with a real sense of the
collectivity.

human language is the most alien artifact
we have.

each of us is the hero of our own story,
this is what makes life meaningful.

a privilege, not of yogins and adepts, but
the privilege of any human being with the
courage to seek.

we must create a specific, intelligible
language to describe the phenomenology of
these experiences.

my intuition is that nobody knows
anything.

the psychedelic experience is, in the end,
for creating new human abilities and
recapturing lost old ones.

the genius of wait disney was to find a
way to show other people the mouse who
wore gloves and ran around inside his head.

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mexican healing chart

bill bernard

this figure, taken from the codex
vaticanus shows the 20 powers who rule
over humans and cure those who become ill
or suffer pain in any part of the body.

the ancient mexicans used this figure to
perform cures according to the sign and hour
that the patient became ill-they determined
whether tbe disease corresponded to die
ruling sign.

beginning with the serpent and moving
clockwise, the symbols and their
corresponding body parts are:

serpent for the male organ
deer for the right foot
wind for liver
rose for the breast
earthquake for tbe tongue
eagle for the right arm
vulture for tbe right ear
water for the hair
house for the right eye
skull for the skull
rain for the left eye
dog for the nose
rabbit for the left ear
flint for the teeth
air for the breath
monkey for the left arm
cane for the heart
herb for tbe bowels
lizard for the womb of women
jaguar for the left foot